[Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Wed Feb 20 12:25:46 EST 2008

Haha same here! That's one hell of a task though to manage that many servers
Thank You,

Jake
"Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld"

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com <bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com>
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Sent: Wed Feb 20 11:21:25 2008
Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Even worse!  ;-)  Gotta love users - they keep me employed.

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Durrant, Justin J
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Let me rephrase.. We have 4000 users.. 1200 have BBs.  J

Justin Durrant 
A+,Net+,Sec+,MCP 2000/2003,MCSA 2000/2003+M,CCNA
Windows Systems Engineering
Platform Engineering, TSI
Fair Isaac Corporation
(office) 651-486-1880
(cell) 651-503-9578 
justindurrant at fairisaac.com <mailto:justindurrant at fairisaac.com> 

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Julie Waack
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

I think I'd rather manage 2 servers than 1200 users ;-)

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Durrant, Justin J
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Eeek 50 servers. We have 1200 users and it sucks having to manage two servers! 

Justin Durrant 
A+,Net+,Sec+,MCP 2000/2003,MCSA 2000/2003+M,CCNA
Windows Systems Engineering
Platform Engineering, TSI
Fair Isaac Corporation
(office) 651-486-1880
(cell) 651-503-9578 
justindurrant at fairisaac.com <mailto:justindurrant at fairisaac.com> 

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Patterson, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:26 AM
To: bb-chat at dataoutages.com
Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Yea like people have the money to add more servers and then you have to manage 50 servers, the software and hardware.  It is easier to ante up the $ for BES than to try to explain how they have to pay 1 person to keep all the hardware and software maintained with the monthly patches that come out and the expense of all the equipment.

From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Shields
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:19 AM
To: bb-chat at dataoutages.com
Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Haha boot 50 servers. My company would just love that.
Thank You,

Jake
"Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld"

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Sent: Wed Feb 20 10:15:38 2008
Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Simple answer to that, BES Express allows 15 licenses with each one at $99.00 after you get the first one for free. Multiple BES X servers ;)

From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Shields
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

It’s a shame ATT had a BB issue. I’ve had no issues all day with any of my BlackBerry users or I’d probably be getting pounded with calls, unless it does manage to creep up eventually. Granted we are on Alltel. Sucks to hear you guys are down.

I really do wish that my company would give me the funding to add a BES server to our network instead of having 50+ bb’s on BIS.

Thanks,

Jake

From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of John Kleinschmidt
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Ok, I apologize for those using BIS that were offended. I’m sure if I wasn’t on a BES also, I’d be looking for more hair to pull out since I’m already bald.

From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Joe C Sanders
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:59 AM
To: 'Data Chat List'
Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

lol, John. Some of us have more than our wife and kids on our BIS.

How about all my clients, friends and YOU... BIS email is just as important as BES email.

Joe C. Sanders

jsanders at masterimage.net

Master Image, Inc.

205-871-8781  office

205-222-8822  cell

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of John Kleinschmidt
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

Tommy,

Don’t get me wrong as I’m VERY dependent on BIS emails from my wife and kids as well as good friends. All I’m saying is can you imagine what would be happening right now if it was BES? Admin’s would be bald from pulling hair out, hiding under desks, etc. ;)

John

From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com [mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Akins
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

John,

I disagree BIS is very important to those of us who have small business's and do not or can not afford BES. So I think its just as important.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, John Kleinschmidt <jkleinschmidt at stgit.com> wrote:

I would prefer to see a BIS outage compared to a BES outage anytime. We
all know that most BB users are BES users and what trouble it can cause
if BES is down, BIS isn't that big of a deal to me at least. Mine is
still down and I'm getting off and on emails.

John

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From: bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com
[mailto:bb-chat-bounces at dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Kannry, Joseph
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:11 AM
To: Data Chat List
Subject: [Bb-chat] Blackberry reliability

I think today's ATT Outage and multiple seemingly att and outages points
to two inescapable conclusions
1.)ATT and users must be convinced by these events and national outages
that blackberry is extremely unreliable. Does anyone at RIM care about
what this is doing to their brand??
2.)Notices like Service Affected: BlackBerry Internet Service (v2.x)
Core Mail service for some *The Americas BIS 2.x (MULT) subscribers in
the following locations: " Also contribute to user perception of
unreliable. Why? Because RIM keeps these notices secret except to
customers paying for gold plated support service

Is rim shooting itself in foot??

Joseph
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